Yes, I love Google… and it’s a much cheaper obsession then being an Apple fanboy. And I love audio, both spoken-word and music. So this is exciting:
It looks like its not fully functional yet but this is very promising.
(HT: Justin Taylor)
it's a good thing I like to dance
Yes, I love Google… and it’s a much cheaper obsession then being an Apple fanboy. And I love audio, both spoken-word and music. So this is exciting:
It looks like its not fully functional yet but this is very promising.
(HT: Justin Taylor)
What makes Death by Love so different from his other books is what makes it good. Driscoll holds his tongue, refusing to bring his trademark humor to this book. In this case it is a very good thing as the subject demands a serious tone. Driscoll looks at real-life crises and offers biblical wisdom and hope. While I have struggled in the past to recommend Driscoll’s books, I have little hesitation in recommending this one.
Stetzer has just published a lengthy article in The Journal for Baptist Theology and Ministry.(go to page 62 to read the article)
Among the more surprising quotes in the article is this from Leonard Sweet:
The emerging church has become another form of social gospel. And the problem with every social gospel is that it becomes all social and no gospel. All social justice and no social gospel. It is embarrassing that evangelicals have discovered and embraced liberation theology after it destroyed the main line, old line, side line, off line, flat line church.
(HT: Darryl Dash)
Scot McKnight provides more of his trademark clarity in a recent article in Christianity Today:
I maintain a crucial distinction between two related streams: emergent and the broader emerging movement. Emergent is crystallized in Emergent Village and its leaders Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, and Doug Pagitt. Emerging is a mix of orthodox, missional, evangelical, church-centered, and social justice leaders and lay folk. When I think of this broader emerging movement, I think of Dan Kimball at Vintage Faith Church in Santa Cruz, Dave Dunbar at Biblical Seminary in Hatfield, Pennsylvania, Michael Frost and Alan Hirsch and their book The Shaping of Things to Come, and Donald Miller’s Blue Like Jazz. Some of this was anticipated by Lesslie Newbigin’s many writings and is now sketched in Tom Sine’s The New Conspirators. Furthermore, I see emerging trends in megachurches like Willow Creek Community Church and Saddleback Church.
Despite what some critics assume, Brian McLaren, the most controversial of emergent leaders, does not represent all things emerging. But he does represent the more progressive wing, and his latest books offer a glimpse of where that movement might be heading.
Someone just emailed me this question: “What is an emergent?”
This is a sincere question from a friend of mine who is not a church attender who honestly knows nothing about the Emerging Church conversation. He is quite Biblically literate, philosophically deep, and a great artist and aspiring luthier to boot.
How would you answer his question?
The Peasant Princess Here is a micro-site for Mark Driscoll’s new sermon series on Song of Solomon. Love it or hate it, you can’t argue with the skill and creativity of Mars Hill’s creative department.
I agree. Mark Driscoll talking about sex… I’m sure the series will be interesting to say the least.
Marry a woman of whoredom and have children of whoredom and name them Jezreel, No Mercy, and Not My People? ( And you thought the boy named Sue had it bad?!?!)
Find out what Hosea did here.
***You might want to read part1, part 2, and part 3 first***PART 4:
I also want you to know that I believe what Don says about Jesus giving us the ability to love the things we should because I have experienced the transformation. I could have written, word-for-word what Don says next:
“I tried to love the right things without God’s help, and it was impossible. I tried to go one week without thinking a negative thought about another human being, and I couldn’t do it. Before I tried that experiment, I thought I was a nice person, but after trying it, I realized I thought bad things about people all day long, and that, like Tony says, my natural desire was to love darkness.”
That paragraph threw me into a period of self-examination, with periodic recurrences ever since. And this is not just changing the way I think about other people, it’s also having a profound effect on the way I think about myself. It’s changing me from being a receiver to being a giver. It’s helping me to see that I have a lot in the bank when it comes to having things to offer. Things I haven’t attained entirely on my own, but stored up through a great childhood and a lot of years of experience making mistakes in my life as a Christian.
Instead of always looking for the next opportunity to consume I’m looking for ways to serve others. So, for example, the next time a Promise Keepers event comes to town, rather than bashing it as being of no use to me (which I have to say it is not), because I see that it really IS of use to a great number of men, I’m going to volunteer to pray or counsel or run security. I’m putting legs to the idea that “it is better to give than to receive”.
Of course really putting legs to this idea means living it in the place where I spend the most of my waking hours: at work. It’s the toughest place for me to successfully NOT think bad thoughts about people for an entire day. But I like challenges. I think working a normal job should be a prerequisite for every person who wants to have a full-time church job. I think one decade is a nice qualifying number. You need to spend ten years, one decade, working a normal job before you can work in the church.
How many Bible college students would drop out with that prerequisite in place? And from the ones who saw it through, how many would go on to be far more mature and effective leaders in their churches and, just as importantly, in their non-church communities? (Ok, so this is an easy requirement for me because I’ve already fulfilled it – I’ve worked for 13 years and am now contemplating a career move into ministry.)
But in keeping with my “I AM THE PROBLEM” line of thought, I want to tell you about the a response I gave to some questions I was asked while I was reading this book. The questions were about the format of the Sunday morning services at the church I attend. Things like “How do you like the music?” and “What could we do to enhance your worship experience?” I started to answer as I normally would but then found myself writing in response:
I am an elitist.
I want the world to revolve around me.
I want friends who are like me in every way.
I want to change people who are not like me so that they are like me.
I want to be efficient about friendship.
I want people to meet my criteria if I’m going to spend my precious time on them.
I am selfish.
So, what do I want in a church service? I’m not sure you should care.
Now I should point out that the “I AM THE PROBLEM” philosophy was still in trickledown mode at this point and after a bit more conversation I did back off from the extreme but still, this was a very uncharacteristic response for me. I have a lot of opinions about everything. Find someone who knows me, even a little, and they’ll confirm that for you. I have enough trouble thinking overly well of myself without someone encouraging me to think about myself a bit more yet. I am a recovering self-addict, and like an alcoholic I’ll always be recovering.
go to part 5

I spent Friday night and all day Saturday in Oakville, Ontario at the “Why Everything Must Change” conference. I’ll post more audio and observations in the coming days but the following was the immediate hot-spot for me. I should mention that there were many great things about the conference and I’ll be sharing those too.
The question for the panel at the end of the conference was “What is the Good News?” Brian McLaren was the only one to answer (link to audio below):
“I think this is where it gets interesting because one of the ways that what we do becomes colonization, when we’re going to represent a religion and trying to make converts to a religion… but the good news isn’t the good news of Christianity, it’s the good news of the Kingdom of God. And I think that Fatmire [Muslim peace activist also present at conference and sitting next to him on the panel] working for peace, is an agent for peace, and I’d much rather her be working for peace being who she is than… becoming a person in a church worrying about the list over there on that wall. [on "the list" are things non-essentials like speaking in tongues, etc.)
So, to me there’s something we really have to grapple with about whether the border of a religion is the border of the kingdom of God. And I think that’s a question we’d be wise to raise. I liked what you said about there not being despair when you’re among the extremely needy people. Wouldn’t it be interesting if we found out that God is present wherever there’s suffering because God is there bringing healing and God is really present wherever people are working against injustice because that’s the work of God, wherever people are working for peace. And then the we find that the place that God isn’t is where you have a bunch of affluent people who are self-absorbed… and that wouldn’t surprise me why they would get depressed, because, in some way, it’s not that God isn’t present but they’re snoring through the presence of God.”
So basically, is he saying that a Muslim peace activist is doing the work of the kingdom of God? And would he really prefer that she not first find true peace in Christ? (Mark 1:15 ”The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”)
“I’d much rather her be working for peace being who she is than… becoming a person in a church worrying about the list…” As if there are only two choices: remain a Muslim and continue to pursue a peace apart from Christ or waste your time becoming a Christian and bickering about non-essential things that make no difference to the world.
It’s quite a dichotomy to lay out, but it’s an incomplete scenario and it seems that Brian believes that Fatmire would be no further ahead with Christ as the source of her peacemaking efforts. That bothers me. Does it bother you?
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D. A. Carson: Five Trends in the Church Today
D. A. Carson in a talk before last week’s Desiring God national conference:
(read the rest here)
This question is of particular interest to me having gone to the Everything Must Change conference one weekend and the Desiring God conference the next. At the first conference global issues were front and center, at the second there was no mention of global social issues at all.