
Day 2, Session 2 – Eyewitness to Power (David Gergen)
“Gergen has long had a seat at the table at the highest levels of power and influence.
Lead and serve each other. It’s great to learn things but the best part is going out and doing what you’ve learned.
Hybels asks: How does a leader get better at leading?
- Whether born with it or not, you must learn to get better.
- We learn as we go.
- Be a reflective practitioner… meaning… you learn leadership in the doing of it, by reading, by reflecting, and then doing more. Do the autopsy.
- Not every reader is a leader, but every leader is a leader.
Don’t confuse motion with progress. Motion does not = leadership. Choose big goals and pursue them relentlessly.
[Just mentioned Peter Drucker – WATCHBLOGGER KEYWORD ALERT!!!!!]
When you’re on the dance floor dancing, occasionally you need to go up to the balcony and look down. Take time away in order to see things more clearly.
Hybels asks: What did you admire most about each of the presidents you worked for?
Nixon
- best strategist, could bend the forces of history.
- He was a reader, believing that, “someone who can see farther back, can see farther ahead”
Ford
- The most decent president he ever worked for. Never had to stand with your back to the wall in the White House around Ford. He looks better and better through the rearview lens of history
Clinton
– very bright, quick, tactical. Admired his resilience., he was knocked down a lot and brought himself down but always got back up
Reagan
– Best leader in White House since Roosevelt. A principled man with a contagious optimism – a great quality in a leader. A gifted communicator who was tempered by the war.
Hybels asks about the underbelly and dark sides of these presidents
Nixon
- Only saw the bright side at first
- Once he trusted you, he removed the veil and there was a dark side
- The struggle was between the people appealing to his dark side and others appealing to his bright side
- A decent man with demons he could not control
Ford
- Could be a little naïve
- Others took advantage of this
Reagan
- Weakness was his detachment
- Would take his hands off the wheel and would let others drive, which was fine when he had a good staff, but awful when that staff left
Clinton
- Parallel to Nixon: cracks in his character
Hybels asks: “Great leaders carry with them great flaws” True?
Not all leaders… not Jesus. Gergen: “You look at Christ, hard to find flaws there.” Hybels: “You keep looking! You CNN guys.” [laughter]
Growing to maturity is about trying to come to grips with your flaws. Realize that we all have a dark side. You must know yourself. You have to have your flaws under enough control so that they don’t derail you.
Sometimes good public leaders have very messy private lives. Martin Luther King, for example, had a very dark private life, quite immoral and chaotic. But realize, he never claimed to be a saint. Same with Mandela.
If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.
Symbolism in Leadership
Leadership is working with others in pursuit of shared goals. You have to persuade, not order. Trust and communication.
Symbols matter to people. Churchill’s “V for Victory” gave people hope and inspiration. Ghandi wore a loincloth even though he was a trained leader.
Reagan said: “There’s nothing so good for the inside of a man as the outside of a horse.”
If you want to inspire people with public speaking there must be a call to action. Will you make people think, or make them act?
Hybels: Personal habits of leaders – do they matter?
They matter a lot. Self-discipline is very important. Control of your life and who you are as a person. Need physical fitness because you need endurance.
Final question: You’re a church going person… when you go to your church, what do you hope is going to happen to you or in you in that service?
Gergen answer this with “Not as often as I should…” to which Hybels responds with a look of restrained horror… “Dude, that is NOT what you were supposed to say…”
Then he answers…
1. A place to find inner peace [“Inner Peace” WATCHBLOGGER KEYWORD ALERT!!!]
2. A place to find a moral compass
After which he began rambling… I have no idea what 3 and 4 were or if he even gave them. The answer was pretty flaky and was more appropriate for the Oprah show than for a leadership event of this magnitude. The rest of the interview was great though… I love listening to political insiders.
His book sounds pretty interesting… check it out here.